a turn this tab did not start is still a turn in progress
"Turn finished · no closing message" kept appearing over an agent that was plainly still working, with output resuming a moment later. isGenerating was set in exactly three places: sendPrompt, and the two reconnect handshakes. So it answered "am I waiting for a reply I asked for", never "is this conversation working". Every other way a turn begins left it false — a commander waking on its own schedule, a queued prompt the server delivered, another tab driving the same session, or a turn that started before this tab was looking. The events still render, but buildRows reads isGenerating to decide whether the last turn is finished, so a live turn was `complete` and the moment it sat on a completed tool call with nothing said after it, the banner fired. Same gap left the composer enabled mid-turn, and a message typed then was not marked injected — which splits the live turn and prints the banner a second way, the exact failure injected exists to prevent. session:claude now sets it: the harness's own turn-start signal, and the only one that arrives before any work does. tool:start sets it too, because session:claude is not durable and a socket connecting mid-turn never receives one, while a tool cannot start outside a turn. Two candidates were measured rather than argued. A genuinely silent turn ending earns the banner honestly, but 667 of 673 recorded turns end with assistant:text immediately before result, so that is ~1% and cannot be it. And a stale sync:live is real but rare: correlating every attach in the officer log against the agent's own later output, 15 of 549 "not generating" attaches were contradicted and one provably so. That residue is left alone — the tool:start fallback now corrects it on the next event — and noted on the refresh card, which is the same seam. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 <noreply@anthropic.com> Officer-Session: f7a62308-0977-4cf4-aa29-c020853fd420
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id: known-bugs/a-turn-this-tab-did-not-start-reads-as-finished
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title: 'A turn this tab did not start reads as finished — "no closing message" over a working agent'
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theme: known-bugs
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status: done
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created: 2026-08-25
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date_source: stated
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order: 6
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**"Turn finished · no closing message" appears while the agent is still working, and output resumes a
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moment later.** Reported by the owner 2026-08-25 with a screenshot: the session list shows Platform Harry
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`generating`, and Platform Harry's own panel shows the banner under two completed Bash calls. He reports it
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happens often.
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**Not the same bug as the two below it, and not a race.** `isGenerating` was set in exactly three places:
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`sendPrompt`, and the two reconnect handshakes (`sync:live`, `sync:messages`). So it answered _"am I
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waiting for a reply I asked for"_, never _"is this conversation working"_. Every other way a turn begins
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left it **false** — a commander waking on its own schedule, a queued prompt the server delivered, another
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tab or another device driving the same session, or simply a turn that started before this tab was looking.
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The tab still renders the work, because the events arrive regardless. But `buildRows` reads `isGenerating`
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to decide whether the last turn is finished (`generatingNow = isLast && isGenerating`), so with it false a
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live turn is `complete` — and the moment that turn sits on a completed tool call with nothing said after
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it, the banner fires. Then the next event arrives and the conversation carries on, which is exactly what
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"still outputting in a bit" is.
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Two further consequences of the same gap, both visible in the screenshot: the composer stays **enabled**
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during someone else's turn, and a message typed then is not marked `injected` — which splits the live turn
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and prints the banner a second way, the precise failure `injected` was added to prevent (`types.ts`).
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**Ruled out on the way, with evidence rather than reading.** A silent turn ending would earn the banner
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honestly, so that was measured first: across every durable event ever recorded, **667 of 673 turns end with
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`assistant:text` immediately before `result`**. Genuine silent endings are ~1% and cannot account for "a lot
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of times". A stale `sync:live` was the other candidate and is real but rare — correlating every attach in
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the officer log against the agent's own subsequent output, 15 of 549 "not generating" attaches were
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contradicted, and only **one** provably so (the first event after it was a `tool:result`, so a tool was
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already in flight when officer answered).
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**Fixed 2026-08-25.** `session:claude` — the harness's own turn-start signal, and the only one that arrives
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before any work does — now sets `isGenerating`. `tool:start` sets it too, as a fallback: `session:claude` is
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not durable, so a socket that connects mid-turn never receives one, and a tool cannot start outside a turn.
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Residual, and left alone deliberately: `sync:live` can still report `isGenerating: false` for a turn that is
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running (the one proven case above, `sidecar.isClaudeGenerating` answering for an adopted session). The
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`tool:start` fallback now corrects that on the next event rather than leaving the turn wrongly settled, so
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the symptom is covered even where the answer is not. Fixing the answer itself belongs with
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[[known-bugs/refresh-mid-tool-call-renders-the-turn-folded]], which is the same seam.
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@@ -43,3 +43,17 @@ Possibly related, same neighbourhood (refresh + a live turn + folding), not conf
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cause: `known-bugs/refreshing-a-finished-chat-turn-loses-output` — a different symptom (a turn that DID
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finish loses its output entirely and misreports `0 turns · 0 tok`) but the same refresh-time seam
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between what the transcript says and what the live socket confirms.
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**2026-08-25 — partly overtaken, and the measurement is worth having.** A separate cause was found and
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fixed for the same family of symptom: `isGenerating` was never set by anything except `sendPrompt` and the
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two handshakes, so a turn this tab did not start rendered as finished from the first event onwards. See
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[[known-bugs/a-turn-this-tab-did-not-start-reads-as-finished]]. `session:claude` and `tool:start` now set
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it, which means the last turn stops folding as soon as any work arrives — so the window this card is about
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is now bounded by the next event rather than open-ended.
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What is left here is the question this card actually asks, and it is now measured rather than suspected:
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correlating every attach in the officer log against the agent's own subsequent durable output, **15 of 549
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attaches that told a client "not generating" were contradicted, one of them provably** — the first event
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after it was a `tool:result`, so a tool was already in flight when `sidecar.isClaudeGenerating` answered.
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So `sync:live` does sometimes carry a wrong value, it is rare, and it is a wrong ANSWER rather than the
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timing gap this card assumed. `historicalCount` was not implicated.
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